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Smart contracts on Zano — any plans, or worth discussing?

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  • shomariS Offline
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    shomari
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    #1

    just curious whether the team/community has ever talked about adding smart contracts to Zano?

    privacy and (public-by-default) smart contracts seem to pull in opposite directions – so it's NOT an obvious fit – but the topic comes up often enough that I thought it warranted a public discussion

    anyone have a strong view either way?

    this was NOT AI generated

    cheers!
    🍻

    I don't wanna hear ur shit .. actions speak louder than words .. value is the only currency

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    • monerodatruthM Offline
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      monerodatruth
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      It's currently being worked on, per our current roadmap, and it's called: Zano Execution Layer (ZEL)

      It's an EVM sidechain that brings smart contracts to the ecosystem while Zano L1 remains the privacy chain.

      𝘍𝘳𝘦𝘦𝘥𝘰𝘮 𝘳𝘦𝘲𝘶𝘪𝘳𝘦𝘴 𝘮𝘢𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘮𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘥𝘢𝘳𝘬𝘯𝘦𝘴𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘦𝘴 𝘵𝘢𝘳𝘨𝘦𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘮𝘱𝘰𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘣𝘭𝘦. 𝘞𝘩𝘦𝘯 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘤𝘢𝘯'𝘵 𝘴𝘦𝘦 𝘸𝘩𝘰 𝘴𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘪𝘴, 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘤𝘢𝘯 𝘰𝘯𝘭𝘺 𝘫𝘶𝘥𝘨𝘦 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘥𝘰.

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      • shomariS Offline
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        shomari
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        that's such GREAT NEWS! 🤗

        i've been looking for some time now, but hadn't seen ZEL mentioned before, glad to hear it's on the roadmap 👍

        any details on the tech stack?

        but what i'm really curious about – how does privacy work across the two layers?

        if the EVM sidechain handles contracts and the L1 handles privacy, is there a bridge mechanism that keeps amounts/addresses hidden when assets move between them?

        I don't wanna hear ur shit .. actions speak louder than words .. value is the only currency

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        • tommycatT Offline
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          tommycat
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          Smart contracts are essential for any blockchain ecosystem and I'm looking forward to the Zano implementation.

          Great questions shomari.

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          • monerodatruthM Offline
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            monerodatruth
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            You can read more about the cross-chain aspect here: https://blog.zano.org/zano-goes-cross-chain-native-zano-is-coming-to-bridgeless/

            𝘍𝘳𝘦𝘦𝘥𝘰𝘮 𝘳𝘦𝘲𝘶𝘪𝘳𝘦𝘴 𝘮𝘢𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘮𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘥𝘢𝘳𝘬𝘯𝘦𝘴𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘦𝘴 𝘵𝘢𝘳𝘨𝘦𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘮𝘱𝘰𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘣𝘭𝘦. 𝘞𝘩𝘦𝘯 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘤𝘢𝘯'𝘵 𝘴𝘦𝘦 𝘸𝘩𝘰 𝘴𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘪𝘴, 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘤𝘢𝘯 𝘰𝘯𝘭𝘺 𝘫𝘶𝘥𝘨𝘦 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘥𝘰.

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            • shomariS Offline
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              shomari
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              #6

              oh great!
              thanks for the link 😁

              makes perfect sense for using Bridgeless to "external" chains; but ZEL is Zano's own sidechain – so the question remains, "is ZEL itself privacy-preserving or just standard (public) EVM?" 🤔

              if it's the latter, fUSD in an AMM pool there would have visible amounts and balances – and perhaps be considered too big a (privacy) shift from the L1

              not sure what the plan is, but here are 2 possibilities:
              (1) Aztec is doing zk-powered private smart contracts with their Noir language — probably the closest thing to real private EVM execution – and definitely the one I'd favor 😉

              (2) while Railgun takes a different approach – utilizing shielded pools on top of existing EVM chains rather than privacy at the execution layer

              imo, both are pretty interesting – but also feel very different in terms of what they'd mean for (and how they'd integrate into) ZEL

              any sense of which direction the team is leaning?
              or perhaps it's still early 💡

              I don't wanna hear ur shit .. actions speak louder than words .. value is the only currency

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              • htzanoH Online
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                htzano
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                yeah Zel is a public EVM, privacy is about where you hold assets, not where they execute at least for this set up.
                ZEL is basically a utility layer for assets , bridge in, do the public defi stuff bridge back to Zano L1 where everything stays confidential.
                So yeah, an fUSD pool on ZEL would be fully visible.
                not really sure about your other questions

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                  igreks
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                  Idk. But adding smart contracts, imo, could open up a lot for Zano, but the privacy side of things makes it a bit more complicated than just adding them.

                  Would be interesting to hear what the team/community thinks about it.

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                  • shomariS shomari

                    just curious whether the team/community has ever talked about adding smart contracts to Zano?

                    privacy and (public-by-default) smart contracts seem to pull in opposite directions – so it's NOT an obvious fit – but the topic comes up often enough that I thought it warranted a public discussion

                    anyone have a strong view either way?

                    this was NOT AI generated

                    cheers!
                    🍻

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                    barryson
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                    #9

                    @shomari
                    I think it’s worth exploring, but I wouldn’t want smart contracts added at the expense of what makes Zano different.

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